Why you Diggers overreacting on the DiggBar?

As a Digg user, I’m able to view the latest news from any subject, digg any stories that I find good, comment on them and submit any new stories or site from any source whatsoever. But lately I came across a piece of news about people hating the DiggBar simply because it uses “inline frames”, it’s “obtrusive”, it keeps people on the Digg domain and some other reasons which are entirely stupid. Now… I’ve been using Digg and I entirely like it because it allows me to Digg a page much more conviently after I’ve read it, allows me to share the news piece to other sites, basically allows me a lot of the functions on the Digg site (except the ability to submit stories) and I don’t see what the big fuss with the DiggBar and that’s just my opinion. But as usual Digg user’s are making an uproar because of the reasons stated above and it just seems entirely stupid because they’re making up any reason they can just to complain. Oh it isn’t right, oh this is different, oh Kevin Rose has betrayed us all.

First of all, people say it’s obtrusive, How is it obtrusive then any other toolbar out there today (web or not)? It’s not ginormous or anything or a size that’ll consume up most of the screen and it doesn’t even interfere with anything, I can read the article just fine without anything obstructing my view. And also, I don’t get the thing about it being in a separate inline frame being bad. First off, the DiggBar is resizable, I’ve tried this and the DiggBar just hides the text slightly and the inline frame resizes horizontally among the window meaning it works with almost every screen resolution imaginable. Secondly the web has changed since the age of flashy design elements and people are designing their websites with an mix of design and style, meaning that their designing sensibly rather then going out of control, just look at almost any site on the web today. Third, some sites still use inline frames and I don’t get the cross compatibility issues that you keep complaining about, rather they resize accordingly just like the DiggBar

Frankly, you guys that hate the DiggBar are just overreacting because frankly you can disable the bar if you don’t like it and if you don’t like Digg then you don’t have to use or join Digg if you don’t want to. While I do agree with some of your guys reasons, this is just completely insane. For people saying that they’re keeping you on Digg’s domain and not redirecting you to the source link, the source link is in an inline frame itself which means that the page gets loaded as normal and that page get’s a view count. Also I need to clear some things up about some of the absurd things that I’ve heard. DiggBar does not display it’s own advertisements per say, there are no Google Ads, no Banner Ads, nothing. If you’re thinking that it’s one big advertisement for Digg then you seriously need some help.

One thing that really bothers me is the fact that people knew that the DiggBar was coming beforehand and it had alot detailed information on how the DiggBar was going to work. It even described in full detail that it was going to be in an inline frame and Digg was going to have a shortened URL. There was even a small dicussion that was before the initial DiggBar release about some doubts that people have about the then unreleased DiggBar which was at the time being beta tested to make sure that Diggers’ would love it and not have a problem with it. You guys could of addressed these issues to Digg before they released the DiggBar and you guys complained about how sucky, that way you could of at least made a difference or at least made the DiggBar a little bit better. You guys could of said “Hey, I don’t like the upcoming DiggBar, there’s a specific thing that I don’t think is right”. Thankfully there’s a feedback button on the bar itself so you guys can help improve it but still, why didn’t some of you guys know about the upcoming DiggBar?

In closing, I have to say that all of you guys are simply overreacting to this, sure there might be people who like it and people who hate it but during the time I’ve used it, I have to say that it’s not obtrusive, that you guys are focusing too much on the inline frame as the source of criticism, that even though they’re keeping you in the Digg domain and not letting you leave Digg, you can just click the X on the top right of the toolbar or disable it entirety and most of the issues that you claim to be problems are exaggerated over the top. I admit that there are some problems such as logging in from the DiggBar is not as dynamic as I want it to be but overall people should just give the DiggBar a chance and not just complain about it because it uses obsolete technology or it radically changes Digg so much. I like Digg but I occasionally don’t like their users because of the childish way that they treat things (A.K.A. The Digg Ban Brigade), but overall the community is very mature, again, just give it a change.

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Taylor

I think you're missing the point of the bar. The bar frames people's content, then overlays ads over the originals. The problem is, they're serving "your" content and displaying their ads. In the end, no matter how much DIGG traffic you get, they get all the revenue - not you. As for the whole "just uninstall it" attitude, doesn't work. You obviously have never been in an environment with people that just install any toolbars they see. I have seen up to 4 toolbars on a computer with more disabled add-ons to match. People install something then forget it, all while DIGG takes your money and runs.

So, in closing, I feel that your attitude is lacking. It shows that you really have nothing to care about since your site doesn't display ads or any decent content. Once you graduate to levels of making money on a blog, you may understand.

Taylor Karras

I'm sorry but I don't agree with you. 1, I don't install many toolbars, find them to be mostly useless in this time of age (except for the StumbleUpon toolbar which I love very much). 2. The just install it thing does work, If you hover on the X on the top right, you'll find an arrow to the left, click it and click "Always hide the toolbar", it will be gone for atleast until you can clear your cookies, also if you're logged in you can disable it in My Profile > Settings > Viewing Preferences > and on the "Show DiggBar?" menu, select "Never show DiggBar for external links" and click saved changes. You can also install framekiller on your website, set up a specific bar for DiggBar users or use one of the many tools, plugins, or scripts designed to kill the DiggBar, see you can disable it if you don't like it, and 3. I just don't get it about the revenue thing. Theoritically if it's in an iframe then it should load the webpage like a web browser would and you still would get credit. I may see how this might be a problem though seeing as how they keep you in the Digg domain but your argument applies to sites that uses iframes such as About.com, Ask.com, Facebook, StumbleUpon, etc. So it doesn't make sense to me at the moment. Also, how is Digg serving "my" content and displaying "their" ads? I've used the DiggBar for a while and I have not seen a single Digg advertisement at all. Explain that to me?

Also I disagree with what you're saying about my attitude lacking. I'm not doing this because I have a blog and I don't care about it because it doesn't show ads or any content that isn't top notch, I'm doing it because I want to voice my opinions that the DiggBar is okay and because I was slightly pissed that people knew it was coming and they didn't voice their opinions fully on how good or bad it will be.